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I have been following # from episode 70. I am not a supporter but it is one of the podcast I listen weekly. And I have noticed, as many other similar podcast, that for them the deb based distro end with *buntu. And even if they did, on episode 72, an interview with Chris Lamb of # their approach hasn't change very much, and without Rocco probably has got even worst.

Now dear friends let me tell you an obviously that without Debian probably Ubuntu would never exist and let me also say that once you try Debian you never come back to Ubuntu. But the way you treat Debian and related project like # clearly show that you haven't done well your homework and for that still continue to speak just of *buntus.

I suggest you to try Debian in depth to understand well the project wholly not only on the technological part. I mean the approximations and commonplaces I heard constantly about the Debian project are quite unjustifiable.

Let me finish pointing out that your main sponsor uses Debian for its infrastructure...


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Not trying to diminish Debian at all, but I work for System76 and we use Ubuntu as the base for Pop!_OS. Ubuntu has packaged drivers for devices like NVIDIA cards that are not easy, especially for the average user, to install.
I love what the Debian project stands for, but it cannot always keep up with the demands of modern computers/users


Well... Destiny want that I have a S76 Serwal ws 9 laptop where just recently I decided to use POP rather than Debian (which is still installed on the others computers). So I know well both... But it seems that you need to do the homework as well.

Installing the Nvidia drivers on Debian is likely trivial, even if does not exist a GUI tool. And you can decided to use the one available on stable, the one available on the backport repo (and not a PPA like S76 does) or you can decide to use Testing or Sid on your system in rolling mode and get always the latest software and drivers.

In terms of compatibility toward new hardware Debian is better than Ubuntu, considering the latter is a snapshot of Debian Sid with just the packages in the main repo actually fixed and tested while the packages on Universe can be buggy for the entire lifecycle of the distro. What absurdity...

As you can see around Debian there are so many inexact facts, mostly pushed by the Ubuntu marketers. I consider Ubuntu the worst distro to use as base, but once I had a discussio... show more