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Playing around with EndeavourOS


Today I had been playing around with #, I was doing #, and even if I had some initial quirks I found the experience pleasant.

I mean the only reason why # hasn't a normal installer it is just arbitrary and it is a strategy to avoid to have too many people requesting assistance for nothing. It is a good strategy indeed, I did a full installation once, made a ton of disasters and never played with it anymore.

But this is a friendly way to install Arch... I am not sure I will install EndeavorOS on a real machine, I am not interested in Arch since I do not share the same vision, I prefer the way how # handles technology... show more



I have been following # from episode 70. I am not a supporter but it is one of the podcast I listen weekly. And I have noticed, as many other similar podcast, that for them the deb based distro end with *buntu. And even if they did, on episode 72, an interview with Chris Lamb of # their approach hasn't change very much, and without Rocco probably has got even worst.

Now dear friends let me tell you an obviously that without Debian probably Ubuntu would never exist and let me also say that once you try Debian you never come back to Ubuntu. But the way you treat Debian and related project like # clearly show that you haven't done well your homework and for that still continue to speak just of *buntus.

I suggest you to try Debian in depth to understand well the project wholly not only on the technological part. I mean the approximations and commonplaces I heard constantly about the Debian project are quite unjustifiable.

Let me finish pointing out that your main sponsor uses Debian for its infrastructure...

Thanks

# # # #

Not trying to diminish Debian at all, but I work for System76 and we use Ubuntu as the base for Pop!_OS. Ubuntu has packaged drivers for devices like NVIDIA cards that are not easy, especially for the average user, to install.
I love what the Debian project stands for, but it cannot always keep up with the demands of modern computers/users

@storyaddict

Well... Destiny want that I have a S76 Serwal ws 9 laptop where just recently I decided to use POP rather than Debian (which is still installed on the others computers). So I know well both... But it seems that you need to do the homework as well.

Installing the Nvidia drivers on Debian is likely trivial, even if does not exist a GUI tool. And you can decided to use the one available on stable, the one available on the backport repo (and not a PPA like S76 does) or you can decide to use Testing or Sid on your system in rolling mode and get always the latest software and drivers.

In terms of compatibility toward new hardware Debian is better than Ubuntu, considering the latter is a snapshot of Debian Sid with just the packages in the main repo actually fixed and tested while the packages on Universe can be buggy for the entire lifecycle of the distro. What absurdity...

As you can see around Debian there are so many inexact facts, mostly pushed by the Ubuntu marketers. I consider Ubuntu the worst distro to use as base, but once I had a discussio... show more



Virtual Distro Hopping


Hi there,

I have been using #Devuan on #Virtualbox for while when I decided to change distro because Devuan is stuck in the transition of #Xfce4 to the newer version.

Hence I decided to to some (virtual) #distrohopping, to find a replacement, mainly #rollingdistro but I started with #Fedora.

With Fedora the installation was fine just a small issue to make the shared folders working. But afterward I decided to move on rolling system and I selected #... show more

Give a try to Sabayon, Calculate or Gentoo before settling with Debian. You may get surprised.

I am not even sure if Sabayon is still active as project, however I don't see the point to use Gentoo on a Virtual Machine with limited resources...

Would have liked to read about your experiences with Obarun. It is arch based and I used it only on bare metal. Install is pretty simple.



How do I get which application is open for screens rather than for desktop?


Hi folks,

I am trying to figure out how to get which applications are open on a specific screen on a multi-monitor configuration on #Linux.

For example utility like #wmctrl ignores the condition of the two monitors and considers the desktop area just as larger (1920*2)*1080px.

Thanks!

#opensource #gnu #debian #ubuntu #xfce4 #linuxdesktop

Just a wild guess, would pstree show you an entry of screen and the applications listed beneath it?

I have to test it out... but thanks anyway...



Laptop for 1000 Euro


Hi Guys,

I am looking for a decent laptop, to buy in Europe (Italy), that plays nicely with Linux, any brands; gpu: Intel or AMD. Thanks!

#linux #laptop #debian #ubuntu #gnu #opensource

Daniel reshared this.

Gah, too bad. But thanks for trying!

I know, it is a shame... :(



The hidden issues of Devuan


Hi there,

I am using Devuan Testing as daily driver on a Virtual Machine every day as main desktop for almost everything and I am a bit concerned about something that might become a real issue.

For its entire cycle and even when Debian Buster was released at every update I have been having this output:

The following packages have been kept back:
  elogind libelogind0 libpam-elogind


These three packages that are fundamentals for Devuan haven't received an updated for at least one year, this is not really the best practice to make an operative system safe. This three packages are a vulnerability and make Devuan a distro unsafe to use on any scenario.

I hope they are doing to make something to improve the security of Devuan keeping these three packages updated and safes.

#devuan #debian #linux #gnu #initfree #freesoftware #opensource



Distro personal crisys (an open letter to myself... )


tl;dr I think this is something that happens from time to time but I think I need to change distro for a while. And I just realized this long post is for me, because I have to deal with my ideals and I am not really happy to do that, but I am not having fun with Debian recently and I need to solve it.


After ten years of #Debian I see Debian changing in something that I don't recognize or I don't feel comfortable with it. Many years ago Debian was also synonymous of innovations, on every fields, today what happens in Debian is, along to slow, behind the scene, like the Risc-V port but for the Desktop area there is nothing exciting and since the #systemd debate I had the feelings that Debian simply refused to lead in favor on just following the events. I mean I am really prone to think if tomorrow Ubuntu is shipped with Just snaps that Debian will follow the same, honestly... show more

@Debacle Honestly I haven't understood yet the difference between the two but I think they work almost the same... 😅

@Debacle

Thanks for sharing that video, it was very interesting.



Debian freezing


So boring when Debian is stuck on the freezing cycle... 😩

#debian #linux #freesoftware #foss #floss #frozen

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@willie959
I like Arch and Manjaro but even if we used to date we never fallen in love with each other... 😎

@Ilja Sara
Gentoo never accepted an invitation... 😅

@Fernando Santagata
I am already married with Testing, but sometimes she got bored... 😁

@Debacle

Yep, that's true indeed... No remedies... 😩



The pointlessness of the FSF endorsed distros based on Ubuntu...


A pure Free-Software distro is a very hard ambition as well as an hard goal to accomplish, you have to deal with your hardware and if your hardware is not compliance with the free Software it is almost impossible running a pure libre distro. But back to time when even installing a standard distro was an impossible task, Ubuntu came out helping a lot of people making easier installing linux on whatever hardware. However we have to flip the point of observation, at the beginning there were just free drivers mostly made through reverse engineering, most of them were too buggy or unreliables, and the few closed drivers were hard to obtain or unavailable to the end users. Hence running a linux distro and having a laptop or a PC with 100% hardware recognized was very hard to achieve but not for Ubuntu. Ubuntu made easy installing blob binaries on Linux and making your hardware properly working, cool! All of we are in debt with Canonical for this because Ubuntu broken this barrier and helped all the distro to achieve the same, pointing the direction to follow. The main point is Ubuntu used... show more

Carrying water for software owners is a compromise. Debian hosting non free software is a waste of resources that should go to making better free software. Allowing someone to set up a tent to install non free software outside of a FSF event, as long as the person dresses up as a devil, is not such a compromise, it's just another way of telling people that non free software gives an evil third party control of your computer. I think that Debian did a better job of shielding users from non free software than Ubuntu did, but they can do better still by dropping it all on the floor.

Debian hosting non free software is a waste of resources that should go to making better free software. Allowing someone to set up a tent to install non free software outside of a FSF event, as long as the person dresses up as a devil, is not such a compromise
#specialpleading #splittinghairs

of course it is a compromise. it is just an acceptable compromise. but it is a compromise. if it werent, then “as long as the person dresses up as a devil” would be irrelevant. the “deal” and the “compromise” are practically the same thing. “if you dress like this and stay out of the room, you can be part of our event whereas you werent before.” you might as well say that as long as you put a big warning on cigarettes, it isnt a compromise to allow them to be sold instead of banned. (im not against the move from the fsf, but its a very silly argument that it isnt a compromise.)