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Laptop for 1000 Euro


Hi Guys,

I am looking for a decent laptop, to buy in Europe (Italy), that plays nicely with Linux, any brands; gpu: Intel or AMD. Thanks!

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Eventually I decided for a Lenovo Thinkpad t40 which is sold in some country with Ubuntu, or at least is Ubuntu certified, I won't install Ubuntu but Debian but I think to get the hardware working without enough struggling. By the way it is impossible to get Ubuntu from Lenovo.

Why did I chose it? Cause I am not buying it directly but through an institution and I cannot use some exotic seller but only accredited sellers, and Lenovo is one of them...

If you want to through getting TUXEDO accredited, just let us know.
Otherwise: have fun with the T40, it's a good choice!

I already spoke with the purchase office, no way they will do that, they told me that clearly unfortunately.

Gah, too bad. But thanks for trying!

I know, it is a shame... :(



System76 firmware update


Since my first (and unique) System76 laptop purchase I have never had a kind word for this company. I have been always complaining about their policy to support just Ubuntu... However it seems they did some steps toward to non Ubuntu or Pop_os users, in fact I was able to update the firmware just with a usb iso (pop_os!) in demo mode and everything worked totally fine as described in their documentation.

At least for one time System76 were been able to let me say something positive about you! 🍻

https://support.system76.com/articles/laptop-firmware/

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I have to repost it because who read this from Mastodon can't read my comment made from Diaspora...

The main issue is manufacturers want tight their os with their hardware. It happens the same with PureOS, it is a very close derivates of Debian but doesn't work exactly as Debian, it is designed to work with their hardware. Fine, it makes sense from the manufacturers perspective but not for a end-user point. The main difference between Purism and System76 is the former contributes back in upstream to Debian so everyone can take advantage of it, even System76.

Ubuntu from my point of view is a unbalanced distro that takes care more of perspective end users rather than power users, while Pop_os, that is an Ubuntu derivative, is awfully bonded with systemd. Please stay far away both from me.

I am likely prone to buy another System76 hardware if they would start selling those with RedoxOS as primary OS rather than whatever *buntu and derivatives.

By the way from my point of view those companies that sell Linux computers are making an HUGE error when
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I totally disagree. Probably more than 95% of sold computers are made to work on one OS, either Windows or MaOS in case of Apple. Linux being OpenSource can and have found compatibility with most hardware, but that's mostly because of it's open nature and don't forget... The Linux Foundation that works on the kernel is funded by those same companies like Microsoft, IBM, etc. Then it comes a company that somehow made it almost mainstream but still small, to be out their way and sell computers focused on providing Linux for the masses. They are small but dedicated, still managed to created their own OS to provide maximum compatibility with their own hardware. But somehow many feel entitled to ask for more? HP does not provide drivers for my HP laptop nor I have the ability to update the BIOS because I erased Windows. Guess who's gonna trouble shoot? hint, Not HP. The same with Apple. and yet you have the nerve to ask System76 or any other Linux selling provider for that matter to support more than they can handle or should business wise.
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Fine, so we have to separate all this matter in computers/laptops that are Linux friendly and the ones that are Ubuntu friendly, in this scenario I select the former ones... So it means that Ubuntu friendly != Linux friendly, this companies must be more clear to avoid confusion on their customers.

@Ismael J HP does provide drivers... some are just straight from hardware vendors, but others are are modified by HP specifically for their machines. And they tend to do this for all the recent and in-use variants of Windows OS. I think that's what we expect from vendors for Linux. How would you feel if HP only gave you drivers for Windows 8 32bit home-edition version that came pre-installed... you cannot get it to work at all with windows 10, Windows 8 Pro, or even older Windows 7 if you hate windows 8. This would be unacceptable, no?

Linux is not a bunch of different OSes (for the most part) it's just different distros, and just like Windows versions, usually the drivers only require minor changes and to be packaged a little differently (for, say, Debian and Fedora) - not totally rewritten or anything like that.

I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect that a manufacturer selling a 'Linux computer' should provide drivers packaged for the handful of major distros - much lik... show more
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