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Here is the #retrocomputing vid I was talking about by @FOSSfirefighter It's neat to see how one takes 16-bit Windows 1.0 apps and get them running on modern Windows 11 *and even* WindowsNT 4 on MIPS. I'm glad I never had to do that for a real app though. youtu.be/kh0CdLPkJVE
@Mark Miller Part of what he highlights in the video is that Microsoft has been pulling down a lot of the historical documentation and tools from MSDN. When I was using it regularly a few years ago it was amazing you could still get Windows 3.11, documentation for the older libraries etc. I'm fine with them pulling it out of mainstream areas so people don't accidentally use it but they really should preserve it all somewhere. Hopefully they are but it wasn't obvious to this person where.


Alternating between watching vids on how to transition programs from Windows 1.0 to 11 (yes literally), history and programming ENIAC #retrocomputing stuff *and* what will hopefully be my first Dart package lol. #dartlang #programming


When I was exploring #vlang one of my ideas was to take the self contained generated C code and try running it on an old unsupported platform. This person went *way* further in getting #rustlang working on Windows NT 4 *for MIPS*. Wow! #retrocomputing gamozolabs.github.io/fuzzing/2021/1…
Y’all have strange hobbies. You should do something better with your time, like flying airplanes. 🤣
Dude, i'd love to. My life's luck, opportunity, and basic survival collude to make low cost intellectual pursuits like software the feasible option.



It’s amazing that this IBM flowcharting template from 1963 works just find when used with an ipad! #retrocomputing

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Boy does this sound familiar lol. This is from "The Soul of a New Machine" on the Data General's first 32-bit machine in the late-70s/early-80s #retrocomputing goodreads.com/book/show/7090…

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Cool book. Made me want to have a Nova 😀
@Emmanuel Florac Yep I just finished it! Growing up the accounting department in my family's company had a DG machine in mini computer form factor. I doubt it was the MV/8000 but I'm not sure what it was at this point. I wish we had donated it and other now-classic computer stuff to someone but it was just huge junk (that still ran).


This is Windows 11 running on a circa 2005 Pentium 4. A combination of "y tho" and "Neat!" to me 😀. The old dog isn't holding up too bad either. Good work @Carlos_SM1995! #retrocomputing youtu.be/WQZCWEyUzAM


Wow this is pretty neat. Not that I assumed the device was birthed in full final form in one step but still. I wish there were pictures of breadboards that went into this beast of an iPod prototype #apple #retrocomputing #computerhistory #history panic.com/blog/a-prototy…


Coming from mac to the PC it was funny how clunky it looked but then again who had that many media files to play back then? That was more mid-90s. Also am I the only one that misses the skinning era for apps and OS's? #retrocomputing #computerhistory

30 years ago today, Microsoft released the first version of Windows Media Player---as "Media Player" for Windows 3.0 with Multimedia Extensions

I wrote about its somewhat confusing history for @howtogeek: howtogeek.com/761739/multime…

happier with foss, like BSD or GNU+Linux. ample ricing opportunities too.
@Digit This is a historical perspective of back to 1991 not a present day discussion. It would be a few more years before I was running FreeBSD and Linux as a daily driver for any stretch of time.
12 years for me, after the start of the linux kernel. 18 after the start of the gnu project.
and still happier with foss. 😀 even wish i'd gotten savvy to gnu in the 80s or 90s. n_n oh well.


Forgive me if I'm sharing this a second time but I'm still impressed that someone made a socket compatible FPGA-based 6502 that will run at 100 MHz in an actual Apple II, Commodore 64, etc. #retrocomputing e-basteln.de/computing/65f0…

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Happening right now! #retrocomputing

Bill Mensch (creator of WDC and their 65C816 among other things, used in the SNES/Apple IIGS) will be on a livestream tomorrow. Zoom link below, but they will be streaming on YT as well here: youtube.com/c/VintageCompu… twitter.com/adumont/status…



I bought the Stone Design Suite back in the early days of OS X #RetroComputing

What app stores looked like before the App Store: bit.ly/3rfQL0Y

Atari had a kind of "app store", from 1982 to 1984, for Atari 8-bit computer users, with the Atari Program eXchange, or APX. It was a mail-order catalog any Atari user could get from Atari that allowed them to buy programs written by Atari, or independent authors. I'm not sure what criteria Atari used for what could be included in the catalog. Everything in it was sold through APX.

[https://www.atariarchives.org/APX/about.php](What was Atari Program Exchange?)



TIL that ToastTech not only has UI screenshots but a whole section on Doom alpha/demo version screenshots! It's interesting to see the evolution. #retrocomputing #RetroGaming toastytech.com/dooma/index.ht…


Listening to the @FloppyDays podcast: It's interesting that the CW had become that MS secretly stole an operating system and passed it off as their own when the text of the press release states clearly they adapted one for the PC. #RetroComputing #history ibm.com/ibm/history/ex…

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@Mark Miller We have the benefit of time to see how silly the argument was. Apple pushed hard on "stealing look and feel" being a violation of IP rights in the same way that others in the 70s and 80s were pushing the idea that copying an API and clean rooming the implementation was a violation of IP rights. We know now and all accept that those positions are untenable with the US Supreme Court reaffirming the API issue in Oracle v. Google recently too. But back then it was very muddy. I was an Apple fan boy in the late 80s and totally bought into how unfair it was that Microsoft copied the GUI concept from Apple and hoped they paid. I was of course totally wrong about that in hindsight. But Apple did succeed in sinking several other GUI systems because they didn't have the legal ass to stand up to Apple.
@Mark Miller The Xerox episodes you talk about were covered in more detailed in a the most concentrated way I've read so far in the book "Steve Jobs & the NeXT Big Thing" by Randall Stross. I highly recommend that book to people even though it was written in the mid-1990s so the story drops off there.


At Apple Cary Clark code named QuickDraw GX "Skia" after Greek mythology. Skia then became the name of the company that developed the graphics engine used so pervasively today in honor of that. Neat! #computerhistory #history #programming #retrocomputing goodreads.com/book/show/5875…

Screen shot of book text elaborating on the point made in the tweet text.


I'm seriously thinking of procrastinating from the stuff I'm supposed to do today but working on an alternate Apple Computer timeline that has been rattling around my head for the past year or so... #fiction #retrocomputing
Sorry typo - "6809" should be "6509". The 6809 is a completely different Motorolla CPU, of course. The 6509 was only used in Commodore CBM/PET computers.
@Isaac Kuo It was but was close enough that Motorola almost sued. Chuck Peddle goes into a bunch of that in interviews and in Brian Bagnall's "Commodore: A Company on the Edge ". I could try to find the podcasts about it.


Here is a great in-depth interview with Bill Mensch. You ever use an 8-bit Commodore, Atari, Apple, Nintendo, or dozens of other electronics you used the chip he helped create. It's still used today in hundreds of devices like pacemakers. #retrocomputing spectrum.ieee.org/q-a-with-co-cr…
literally just read his whole bio yesterday, amazing stuff

I like the second half where he reverse engineers from the layout



Fascinating exploration of the first Chinese word processor on Apple II, which greatly improved accessibility since didn't need a minicomputer, and history of Chinese key input methods, the modern method being younger than me. #retrocomputing #languages youtube.com/watch?v=8_BDsN…


It is amazing to me how much they can get out of an Apple IIe with this UNIX-like(ish) OS @A2Osx #retrocomputing #apple2 youtube.com/watch?v=5OO9vj…



mist64/cbmsrc: Original source code of various Commodore computers and peripherals.


#commodore #retrocomputing

This repository collects the original source code of various Commodore Business Machines (CBM) computers converted to a modern encoding (ASCII, LF, indentation).

https://github.com/mist64/cbmsrc



Playing with retro hardware in preparation for maybe doing a #retrocomputing challenge: I think screen quality/tech has improved about the same rate my eyes got worse. Hence today's "crappy screens" are actually much better than the old but not good enough for my old eyes lol.


TIL (or am reminded) that Microsoft made IE for UNIX using MainSoft IDE tools. I remember using them for some cross platform COM stuff. Ironic that they pushed the cross platform vision of that further than MS did.

My video on exploring Internet Explore for UNIX is up. This is a wild one, since the idea of Microsoft having IE on UNIX is weird, this port wasn't even done by Microsoft themselves.

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#retrocomputing #oddware

That guy is in the running for the world’s most boring human.
@Brad Koehn ☑️ Ironically I already have a bunch more of his videos queued up lol.



Thanks to some lucky timing, my collection of NeXT printed materials has grown significantly this week! A short thread follows:

#apple #nextstep #RetroComputing @bleedsixcolors @gruber @siracusa

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I didn't realize Tim Paterson (of DOS fame) had a blog where he discusses a bunch of stuff about that era. It hasn't been updated in a decade but I'm going to be walking through it for the #retrocomputing goodness dosmandrivel.blogspot.com


After trying to help someone diagnose some network problems with their OPENSTEP VM I decided to try FrogFind.com in it. It's a search engine and intermediate renderer so modern web that isn't too JS based can run on older computers, even an Apple II. #RetroComputing

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I didn’t know FrogFind.com I’ll definitively try it on my NextCube once I’ll be able to boot it … 👍️
@Hans Wolters No this is OPENSTEP 4.2 with OmniWeb.


Reading Brian Kernighan's "UNIX: A History and a Memoir"...in 1963 when he saw his first computer ever it was University of Toronto's IBM 7094. A behemoth with a then whopping 128KB of RAM for the cool price of $3 million ($26 million in today dollars). #retrocomputing #unix

I’ll bet Bill found out the hard way and that’s why they’re divorcing. Gates takes Apple personally, especially ever since Apple v. Microsoft lawsuit over Gates’ hijacking of Windows. And after the anti-trust lawsuit against Microsoft of which Apple was beneficiary. Chipwise, Bill was all Intel and Melinda was all Motorola. :-}
HAH! I know what you mean, Bill B. I still have my Timex Sinclair 1000 with attachments.


I am fascinated by this Apple II based typesetting system from the early-to-mid-1980s. Competing systems were using 8" drives and workstation like configurations, although <10 years before used paper tape. Looking for more info. #retrocomputing

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Well, the state of the art at that time there was no such thing as batch/send to any typesetter or printer, either way. You just sent data to the machine you're attached to and it's the end machine that does the rest...UNLESS you're talking about the IBM, which DID have what's called a job spooler as a Virtual Machine. That was IBM proprietary at the time, tho.
I lament the asymmetric layout so common of the time. What I would have really loved would have been turning it on the side, so you had a portrait monitor with the mobo along the left side and a single horizontal floppy at the bottom.

Even without interlacing, using a 6x8 pixel font would give you a 40x40 character display. Not too shabby, but the font isn't the greatest.

With a long persistence monitor and a non-traditional 2:5 interlace timing, you could have a 80x80 character display with 12x8 pixel font (very tall aspect ratio pixels).


I love this story and would love to hear more details! #RetroComputing

in 1995, while interning at apple, i bought a NeXT cube for $150 at stanford surplus

while designing mac os X with steve, he liked to tell us how the NeXT was better

so i started bringing in my cube to win arguments by showing him that things weren't as good as he remembered


Favorite "remember" when timeshift in this 1993 computer history book. Today I bet most non-computer geeks haven't heard of 3Com. I'm trying to decide which percentage of non-geeks have heard of Adobe. Because of Acrobat and Flash I'm guessing most. #RetroComputing

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Flashback to labs full of 3c509 network cards and a major update project from (unremembered) whatever came before them and wasn't very reliable. My memory tells me we had good drivers & support for the NetWare network that we were at the time
In the networking Intel world, what came before the ethernet card as such was DOS 3.3 and port cards (serial, parallel)--deluxe versions included a Hayes standard modem board.


Watching Pirates of Silicon Valley for the umpteenth time. Love it. The best movie covering that era. Funny that for story reasons made it that "nobody needs Microsoft" in 1980 b/c pre-DOS. Meanwhile almost all computers went to them to write their BASIC. #retrocomputing #history
Well, at least Commodore didn't need Microsoft. Tramiel got some sort of insanely great lump sum unlimited license deal on Microsoft BASIC for the PET in like 1977 where he could sell as many copies as he wanted so long as it wasn't upgraded. So that's why the VIC20 and C64 had infamously limited BASIC implementations with no graphics commands or even dedicated disc commands (the original PET didn't have a floppy drive).
Interesting about MS-Basic on the 64! I wondered why it didn't have commands for graphics and sound. It had this strange way of getting a disk directory, too. You had to LOAD "$",8, and the way I've heard it explained, the directory loaded in as a non-executable Basic program. To see the directory, you'd type LIST. The downside was if you had Basic code in memory, it got erased.

I recall the C-128 had an extended Basic that had commands for graphics and sound (and getting a directory). You had to be in 128 mode to get to it, though.

Doing some research, it sounds like Commodore extended Microsoft's "buy once" Basic, putting the extended versions in later versions of the PET, the C-16, the Plus/4, and the C-128. (The C-64 had V. 2 of Basic, since it fit into the ROM size they needed, reducing the price of the machine, and it seems Commodore assumed customers had lower expectations for the Basic.)


Watching @textfiles Infocom documentary. This early/mid-1980s memo from it reminds me that the more things change the more they stay the same 😀. "This meeting is to discuss productivity issues with too many meetings." #RetroComputing #programminghumor

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VAXBarn making huge progress getting an old Intel i860 supercomputer back and running! Like lots of big iron back in the day you needed a computer to run the supercomputer. So that's the focus. Good work @iamcamiel ! #retrocomputing


Fascinating look at the 1st protocols invented for the internet's predecessor ARPANET & how lessons learned from using them drove the design of the protocols that are the backbone of all of the networking we take for granted. #retrocomputing #history


1972! One of the earliest (or 1st) 3D computer animation, complete with modeling and shading, demonstrations by Edwin Catmull (co-founder of Pixar and president of Disney Animation) and Fred Parke (now at TAMU). Hope someone archived it. #retrocomputing

first ever 3d animation (40 year old 3d computer graphics pixar 1972)

This historical video was recently re-discovered after being lost for many years. It was produced in 1972 and is believed to be the world's first computer-ge...
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How they curated the source for the entire history of Unix (kernel back to the original in 1972 and the entire thing including tools back to 1975) from a time before CVS/SVN/Git and in a way that can capture metrics about it's evolution. #retrocomputing

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Watching Die Hard for first time in forever. Apparently Nakatomi corporation's big iron computers ran a fictious home grown: Socrates BSD Version 9.2 😀 #unix #RetroComputing

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Hollywood OS comes in many flavors. ?


To think I pat myself on the back for assembling a computer from parts from NewEgg and considering doing "Linux From Scratch". Meanwhile this dude built his on 6809 computer and Unix-based OS. Source code links in site. #retrocomputing #unix

OMU - The "One Man Unix" System

Yep... I did that when I was getting started...but with 8080 eproms and a manual hex programmer. ???


How have I never seen this?!?! Someone got VNC working to an Apple IIc over a Super Serial connection. It's not useful but impressive. #RetroComputing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAZHJa91JHk