Chat / XMPP support and testing
@iSurf Support
Hi all,
I'm not sure if you know or not, but Friendica has a built-in chat option that we pretty much have to leave disabled, as it has some bugs that conflict with the two most common & usable themes. It also relies on a javascript chat app that is no longer developed.
That said, we do have an integrated chat system on the iSurf Social platform, which you can use with either a standard XMPP client (such as Pidgin, gajim, or Conversations for Android or Xabber for Android - there's IOS apps too), or if you'd like to test/try out a web-based chat client here, which I'm going to have some discussion with the developers on replacing the old unsupported client with, please give chat.social.isurf.ca a try. It's a rediculously simple setup, nothing fancy. You use your social.isurf.ca username & password to login in to it.
If you would like any further information on how to use any of the other clients I mentioned, please let me know!
#XMPP #friendica #chat #webchat #jsxc
Hi all,
I'm not sure if you know or not, but Friendica has a built-in chat option that we pretty much have to leave disabled, as it has some bugs that conflict with the two most common & usable themes. It also relies on a javascript chat app that is no longer developed.
That said, we do have an integrated chat system on the iSurf Social platform, which you can use with either a standard XMPP client (such as Pidgin, gajim, or Conversations for Android or Xabber for Android - there's IOS apps too), or if you'd like to test/try out a web-based chat client here, which I'm going to have some discussion with the developers on replacing the old unsupported client with, please give chat.social.isurf.ca a try. It's a rediculously simple setup, nothing fancy. You use your social.isurf.ca username & password to login in to it.
If you would like any further information on how to use any of the other clients I mentioned, please let me know!
#XMPP #friendica #chat #webchat #jsxc
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Terms of Service 1.0 posted
!iSurf Support
Hi all,
Please have a look at the Terms of Service that I've finally posted. If there's anything that stands out to you as a problem or you think should be revised, please let me know.
Thanks!
Hi all,
Please have a look at the Terms of Service that I've finally posted. If there's anything that stands out to you as a problem or you think should be revised, please let me know.
Thanks!
!iSurf Support
Quick question based on general comments I've seen about Friendica over on G+. Some users are looking for a set of rules, terms of service, etc to decide whether they agree with the way a node might be run before signing up. Have you considered posting some information or a link on the main page?
Quick question based on general comments I've seen about Friendica over on G+. Some users are looking for a set of rules, terms of service, etc to decide whether they agree with the way a node might be run before signing up. Have you considered posting some information or a link on the main page?
As for moderation rules, I generally used the Google policy on G+ communities shown here https://www.google.com/intl/en-US/+/policy/content.html but I will need to setup some rules of my own for community forums I run (which will be similar - I've used a 3 strike rule for many years as a professional moderator.)
OK, version 1.0 of the T&C has been posted. It shows as a link in your user drop-down menu ("Terms of Service") and is linked on the user registration page and the impressum.
Oh, and the Impressum is linked on the home page now too.
Oh, and the Impressum is linked on the home page now too.
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Maybe I should have deleted the Ignored Request before attempting to re-connect with him?
Sometimes I have to go to the notifications via the menus to the right of my profile pic (upper right of screen on browser) then delete notifications there.
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The message appears right after I hit the submit button for my comment, and knocks me out of the forum. I return to forum by clicking on my profile, clicking on the isurf support forum icon, and returning to the forum - and then I see that the comment is posted. It just seems strange that it knocks me out of the forum and I have to then return to the forum before I can see that the comment is posted.
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Twitter connector functioning again
!iSurf Support
Hi all,
Thanks to @Hank G bringing to my attention that posting to Twitter wasn't functioning, I've gone through fixing that functionality up.
If you were using the Twitter connector, you'll have to go to your settings and disconnect Twitter, then re-connect it (you'll need to use the new PIN).
Enjoy!
Hi all,
Thanks to @Hank G bringing to my attention that posting to Twitter wasn't functioning, I've gone through fixing that functionality up.
If you were using the Twitter connector, you'll have to go to your settings and disconnect Twitter, then re-connect it (you'll need to use the new PIN).
Enjoy!
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That one (the one I posted directly above this one) posted just fine, without throwing me out of the forum.
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My posts are still disappearing. I turned off all retire old post settings, and someone turned them back on. What is going on?
My posts are still disappearing. I turned off all retire old post settings, and someone turned them back on. What is going on?
I also notice that some peoples comments on my posts have disappeared while my replies remain.
Hey Joeseph... I'm digging in to this. Can you provide any links to examples where comments have disappeared?
I got this comment in an email that I never saw in the comments "Hmm, I see that it's pretty easy to change an advanced setting and move on to something else without saving those settings. Are you saving the settings after adjusting one of the advanced settings?" by Adam Clark(Comment to conversation #2930394). So would that be one of your comments disappearing?
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Adam Clark commented on an item/conversation you have been following.
Hmm, I see that it's pretty easy to change an advanced setting and move on to something else without saving those settings. Are you saving the settings after adjusting one of the advanced settings?
Please visit https://social.isurf.ca to view or reply to the conversation.
https://social.isurf.ca/notify/view/28220
Thank you
iSurf Social Administrator
Hmm, I see that it's pretty easy to change an advanced setting and move on to something else without saving those settings. Are you saving the settings after adjusting one of the advanced settings?
Please visit https://social.isurf.ca to view or reply to the conversation.
https://social.isurf.ca/notify/view/28220
Thank you
iSurf Social Administrator
I do distinctly recall posting that comment. Thanks for reminding me, and yes, that comment appears to have disappeared. Further digging tomorrow...
Greetings.
Greetings.
Recently registered in this social network.
Made a few posts in the feed. Now I see that some of them have disappeared without any warning.
Do you know what could be wrong?
Recently registered in this social network.
Made a few posts in the feed. Now I see that some of them have disappeared without any warning.
Do you know what could be wrong?
It will be interesting to see if anyone loses any further content with those advanced settings off. I'll be disabling it myself to see what happens.
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@Adam Clark Since turning off the advanced expiration settings I don't seem to be losing any more posts.
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!iSurf Support
Noticed weak encryption on this Friendica instance probably because of loading insecure http content or something like that. Someone suggested that you could use the information on this website to change that behavior so people would not get anxious about seeing this behavior on what they believe should be a totally encrypted site. My understanding is that this has to be corrected on the Friendica Server here.
#encryption #broken-encryption
Noticed weak encryption on this Friendica instance probably because of loading insecure http content or something like that. Someone suggested that you could use the information on this website to change that behavior so people would not get anxious about seeing this behavior on what they believe should be a totally encrypted site. My understanding is that this has to be corrected on the Friendica Server here.
CSP: upgrade-insecure-requests
The HTTP Content-Security-Policy (CSP) upgrade-insecure-requests directive instructs user agents to treat all of a site's insecure URLs (those served over HTTP) as though they have been replaced with secure URLs (those served over HTTPS). This directive is intended for web sites with large numbers of insecure legacy URLs that need to be rewritten.developer.mozilla.org
It only means that some content that is linked on the page is being linked to via http instead of https. This happens if people share things from http links.
If you're interested in seeing what's being loaded, turn on the developer tools in your browser and you should be able to find out all the pieces that are being loaded on any given page.
If you're interested in seeing what's being loaded, turn on the developer tools in your browser and you should be able to find out all the pieces that are being loaded on any given page.
XMPP services @ social.isurf.ca
!iSurf Support
As there was a question posted about this I wanted to create a public post here to mention that we do have an XMPP chat server here @ social.isurf.ca and you are able to use it since you're a social.isurf.ca user!
The clients that I am familiar with that work with XMPP are: Pidgin, Gajim (Linux/Windows desktop clients), Conversations and Xabber for Android. There's clients for MacOS and IOS as well, a list of clients can be found at xmpp.org.
The only tie-in to the Friendica software at this point is authentication, so that means your roster of contacts and whatnot for XMPP contacts is separate from your Friendica contacts.
If you want to try it out at any point, your username for XMPP is username@social.isurf.ca . (if your username on social.isurf.ca was 'bob', then it would be bob@social.isurf.ca )
At some point in the future I would like to see a chat widget show up in Friendica - hopefully that can be fixed in the not too distant future.
As there was a question posted about this I wanted to create a public post here to mention that we do have an XMPP chat server here @ social.isurf.ca and you are able to use it since you're a social.isurf.ca user!
The clients that I am familiar with that work with XMPP are: Pidgin, Gajim (Linux/Windows desktop clients), Conversations and Xabber for Android. There's clients for MacOS and IOS as well, a list of clients can be found at xmpp.org.
The only tie-in to the Friendica software at this point is authentication, so that means your roster of contacts and whatnot for XMPP contacts is separate from your Friendica contacts.
If you want to try it out at any point, your username for XMPP is username@social.isurf.ca . (if your username on social.isurf.ca was 'bob', then it would be bob@social.isurf.ca )
At some point in the future I would like to see a chat widget show up in Friendica - hopefully that can be fixed in the not too distant future.
!iSurf Support
I am noticing some changes since the update to RC. Specifically, I used to be able to (on top posts at least) click link, see a dialog box, paste the link, then see the preview showing the link embedded. Now, it defaults to the url tags and does not embed even if I put on my glasses to get the cursor in between the tags. I also do not see an image icon or video icon (this is in Frio) which was user friendly. Am I missing something or did a change take place that reversed some usability?
I am noticing some changes since the update to RC. Specifically, I used to be able to (on top posts at least) click link, see a dialog box, paste the link, then see the preview showing the link embedded. Now, it defaults to the url tags and does not embed even if I put on my glasses to get the cursor in between the tags. I also do not see an image icon or video icon (this is in Frio) which was user friendly. Am I missing something or did a change take place that reversed some usability?
Good question - best to ask in the Friendica support forum. I'm not aware of all the changes, but the devs would be interested in hearing about your experience.
!iSurf Support
I've gone to settings, additional features, general, allow calendar export. What I can't find is what to tell others on how to export my calendar. Can anyone help?
I've gone to settings, additional features, general, allow calendar export. What I can't find is what to tell others on how to export my calendar. Can anyone help?
Let me quote the help on this:
Calendar Export
If you want to export your public events to ical or csv, you can activate an additional feature in your user settings (Additional features -> General Features -> Export Public Calendar). Afterwards a link will be shown in the events page of your profile to access the calendar.
If I go to your profile and the Events tab/page, there's export options that show up in the left sidebar menu.
Calendar Export
If you want to export your public events to ical or csv, you can activate an additional feature in your user settings (Additional features -> General Features -> Export Public Calendar). Afterwards a link will be shown in the events page of your profile to access the calendar.
If I go to your profile and the Events tab/page, there's export options that show up in the left sidebar menu.
I tried using another account to look for that but was not able to do so. My guess is browser cache issue so I will look at another user account and see if I can see what the help is telling above so I can make a screenshot.
Hey Shelenn,
It probably would have been helpful for me to do a screenshot so you can see what I've seen when looking at your profile's events page:
It probably would have been helpful for me to do a screenshot so you can see what I've seen when looking at your profile's events page:
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Some profile fields set to 'e' and not editable?
!iSurf Support I notice that my profile has some information I did not enter myself, and can't edit:
- on the left box, relationship status shows as 'e'
- on the basic tab it shows as 'e never'
- on the advanced tab, sexual preference shows as 'e'
If I edit my profile, these fields do not show up, even after toggling "show more profile fields". In fact I don't think any extra field actually shows up?
Thanks in advance, and Happy New Year!
- on the left box, relationship status shows as 'e'
- on the basic tab it shows as 'e never'
- on the advanced tab, sexual preference shows as 'e'
If I edit my profile, these fields do not show up, even after toggling "show more profile fields". In fact I don't think any extra field actually shows up?
Thanks in advance, and Happy New Year!
I've dropped you from the contact list on Progressive Refuge community forum @Tara
So you can try again to see how long it takes.
So you can try again to see how long it takes.
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Thank you Shelenn! It worked perfectly! I was able to connect again, AND I am now showing up on the contacts on the Progressive Refuge profile, as well as on my own profile! Thank you!
Do I know them?
!iSurf Support
Being new here, I sent out some requests to Connect with like-minded people. In each case, the form asked "Do you know them?" And in every case, the reply 'Yes' was pre-selected and I couldn't change it. Is this a bug, or am I doing something wrong?
Being new here, I sent out some requests to Connect with like-minded people. In each case, the form asked "Do you know them?" And in every case, the reply 'Yes' was pre-selected and I couldn't change it. Is this a bug, or am I doing something wrong?
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No, the button is still showing 'Yes' and won't change.
Part of the problem is that, with 4 different browsers on each of two different machines (PC and Android tablet) and with several themes which might be responsible, it's taking time to go through checking everything. Time which I don't have much of these days. I might end up having to live with those things I can't change (as the saying goes).
Part of the problem is that, with 4 different browsers on each of two different machines (PC and Android tablet) and with several themes which might be responsible, it's taking time to go through checking everything. Time which I don't have much of these days. I might end up having to live with those things I can't change (as the saying goes).
Fyi, I just verified the above support tag valid on Android browser. Many tags tested before today result in page not found....
!iSurf Support
Hey folks! I am not sure why the community forum account type is not showing in global search after a !
What I did was create a new account with a different email address and set the account type to community. When I bring it up it shows to be a forum but users find it using @ instead of !
How do I change it so it can be found either way?
Hey folks! I am not sure why the community forum account type is not showing in global search after a !
What I did was create a new account with a different email address and set the account type to community. When I bring it up it shows to be a forum but users find it using @ instead of !
How do I change it so it can be found either way?
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progressiverefuge@social.isurf.ca (which is registered by me via another email account then changed it to a community forum advanced account type).
I've just updated the site's code to the latest release candidate. Please let me know if this affects this at all for you.
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Can't federate with Osada?
!iSurf Support - Libranet can federate with Osada but we can't it seems? Trying to connect with Mike results in 'can't detect protocol'
see https://libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-415c-0dfc-9033-d9d077537777 for a reshare from Osada on Libranet
see https://libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-415c-0dfc-9033-d9d077537777 for a reshare from Osada on Libranet
Osada 2.0 released
Merry Xmas from Zotlabs.
Osada is an easy to use social network server of the blogging or "conversational" persuasion running over the ActivityPub protocol. There's a great deal of mature and proven functionality available as the underlying codebase has been developed since 2001 and part of the fediverse since 2010.
Events
Groups/Forums
Privacy groups
File management
Photo Albums
WebDAV access
and more...
There are several plugins/addons providing LDAP authentication, personal wikis, content filtering, "friend/acquaintance zoom control", Twitter/StatusNet API and much more.
https://zotlabs.com/osada
Hi there, @Michel Alexandre Salim
Yes, we're running the latest stable code, not the RC at this time. I'll be waiting for the stable to be released as I haven't had the time to babysit a buggy system this month.
I've been watching for the release announcement, so it won't take long once it's released.
Yes, we're running the latest stable code, not the RC at this time. I'll be waiting for the stable to be released as I haven't had the time to babysit a buggy system this month.
I've been watching for the release announcement, so it won't take long once it's released.
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Federating with Pixelfed?
!iSurf Support - I can federate with Mastodon and Diaspora just fine from iSurf Social, but somehow I can't follow anyone on Pixelfed (which gained federation support to Mastodon a couple of days ago)
see https://social.isurf.ca/display/68eba9f4a2c45a550b6f967424c17cd4eefe521b
tried following:
see https://social.isurf.ca/display/68eba9f4a2c45a550b6f967424c17cd4eefe521b
tried following:
- @earth@pixelfed.social
- @michel-slm@pixelfed.social
michel-slm on pixelfed
Coder, Production Engineer, Foodie, Stoic. Mostly human, warm inside https://mastodon.social/@michel_slmpixelfed.social
I'm not sure how a Friendica node should know how to federate with something that it doesn't federate with.... Pixelfed may federate with Mastodon but that doesn't mean we can reach pixelfed users directly.
I think it's he same issue with my other question - Pixelfed only speaks ActivityPub, and Friendica doesn't until the 2018.12 release. Sorry for the noise!
Could be, we'll see what things look like after the stable update!
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Connections seem a lot slower the past day or so
!iSurf Support Is it just me, or is anyone else finding connections to isurf.ca slower than normal?
I know the nature of the internet is that so many things vary at times, but I'm suddenly seeing it a lot slower anytime I connect. I'm not experiencing the same kinds of slowdowns on other sites I frequent.
I know the nature of the internet is that so many things vary at times, but I'm suddenly seeing it a lot slower anytime I connect. I'm not experiencing the same kinds of slowdowns on other sites I frequent.
Page load time 36.2 seconds this morning.
I'll start running some dev tools to see if I can monitor each and every item being loaded. I suspect a major contributor may be one or more external links that is taking a long time to respond and holding things up. If I see any pattern or anything that jumps out I'll let you know.
I'll start running some dev tools to see if I can monitor each and every item being loaded. I suspect a major contributor may be one or more external links that is taking a long time to respond and holding things up. If I see any pattern or anything that jumps out I'll let you know.
Hmm, well, friendica does do caching and proxy caching, but I think it has some limitations as to what it can cache or it can recognize as cacheable... and I forget whether that is based on the type of embedding or if I'm just mis-remembering.
That said, perhaps I could see a reference to a post that has something from a slow-loading server, and I can check in to whether or not friendica is making a local copy, and if so, when. (ie, would be nice to determine if friendica is doing the appropriate thing with helping speed things up, which it sounds like it may not be)
That said, perhaps I could see a reference to a post that has something from a slow-loading server, and I can check in to whether or not friendica is making a local copy, and if so, when. (ie, would be nice to determine if friendica is doing the appropriate thing with helping speed things up, which it sounds like it may not be)
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When scrolling my network feed sometimes I see popups in the upper right warning me there are 3 in this group (no idea what group it is referring to) that do not allow non-public messages and will not be included. Can someone explain please?
When scrolling my network feed sometimes I see popups in the upper right warning me there are 3 in this group (no idea what group it is referring to) that do not allow non-public messages and will not be included. Can someone explain please?
That's one I hadn't seen before, but there is a setting for that. Under your settings -> display, you'll see "Suppress warning of insecure networks".
Agreed but I am waiting for the new release as soon as RC testing is done. Then I can put a team of users in place to use that fine tooth comb and develop a wish list and fixes list.
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There actually are but a bit confusing. We need a more usability focused registration. That is something suggested overall to developers but something that can be handled per admin. :) This is why I provided detailed signup instructions on G+ but with the nature of G+ often things are not seen or found in search after a few hours.
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The larger scope points are around ensuring more people know (outside of social.isurf) that the users here may be able to do XMPP, and that with people like yourself, I'm hoping we can get some traction on getting chat integrated soon (and I think jappix has to go... though that is likely for outside of this thread). It seems that getting the bugs out the themes with jappix hasn't been happening, and perhaps we can begin to look to use something that's being actively developed. *shrug*
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There's a good list of XMPP clients here.
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Accessibility Idea for posts that might also work with chat:
The ability to leave a voice comment can be seen as an accessibility feature for the visually and mobility impaired. Since Friendica can be used with a browser, the ability to use a screen reader likely already exists.
What would be the chance something like this can be added?
https://addpipe.com/simple-recorderjs-demo/
Longer range idea:
End to end encrypted group chats and voice conversations is desirable for many reasons - one being associated with trade secrets. If we want to garner industry support and sponsorship for open source development we have to find a way to make it capable enough they could use it for remote project collaboration etc.
Chat is a start :) Adding voice and video are goals for me. This is something of interest but outside my scope of expertise: https://matrix.org/blog/home/
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I have been toying with updating the converse code, and it looks like recent versions of converse have some pretty ugly UI bugs in them - at least with the browsers I'm testing with. I'm going to go back a few releases for testing today, see if I can't get a usable solution in place for the addon.